tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post8859712302123418707..comments2024-03-08T03:17:13.132-05:00Comments on No Blood for Hubris: Bludgeon Me Not With Roe v. WadeUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-9064029627753345152008-06-20T14:55:00.000-04:002008-06-20T14:55:00.000-04:00*cunt-calling*cunt-callingNo Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-82716498150614353652008-06-20T14:54:00.000-04:002008-06-20T14:54:00.000-04:00Yes, I am engaging in mild snark when I speak abou...Yes, I am engaging in mild snark when I speak about Party Unity Pony. I think this term, "Unity Pony" was originally coined at CorrenteWire, so it isn't mine -- I just appropriated it, made Unity Pony pink and gave her spangles and several dreadful diseases (click on "Unity Pony" to see all Unity Pony posts). Sometimes I feel like resuscitating Party Unity Pony, and sometimes I wish Party UnityNo Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-20830947921257753922008-06-20T12:31:00.000-04:002008-06-20T12:31:00.000-04:00no blood for hubris:This is a pit whose only botto...no blood for hubris:<BR/><BR/>This is a pit whose only bottom is my admission that I'm a bad person and one who is totally unaware of his bigotry and prejudice. I absolutely do "get it". <BR/><BR/>I'm not a fan of Barack Obama, or any other candidate who ran for the Democratic nomination. But, it seems that Hillary Clinton (and her surrogates) are all the "victims" of terrible things done, by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-45172665148543481662008-06-19T10:14:00.000-04:002008-06-19T10:14:00.000-04:00NBFH, Am I supposed to believe, for one moment,...NBFH,<BR/><BR/> Am I supposed to believe, for one moment, for just even a second, that you aren't being insulting and demeaning when you call it Party Unity Pony?<BR/><BR/> In fact, only Obama, who called it a "bad" habit (have you heard any major Republican call their sexism regrettable? Once?), can change any sexism in the Obama campaign. Democommie is simply irrelevant (I imagine, unlessJoshSNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08034864979736555692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-46862727313300267482008-06-19T07:45:00.000-04:002008-06-19T07:45:00.000-04:00Yes, this conversation, and its lack of progress i...Yes, this conversation, and its lack of progress is depressing: it takes two sides to revive Unity Pony, and democommie otherwise has all the hallmarks of an intelligent being who should be able to get it -- in a heartbeat.<BR/><BR/>In the meantime, I will regale you with a letter to the editor from my local paper from a guy who claims to be an Obama delegate from Wyoming. He suggests Obama No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-17612227389397940742008-06-19T00:37:00.000-04:002008-06-19T00:37:00.000-04:00Those who seek party unity may need to pay better ...<I>Those who seek party unity may need to pay better attention, or they will play a part in getting McCain elected.</I><BR/><BR/>Exactly. And this debate went like they always do, with the objector jumping in to say that HE uses language like this all the time, but that doesn't make him sexist and if we wimmin weren't so fucking sensitive and humorless, we'd understand that. On the other hand, clshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943195151495184787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-35185904583716479102008-06-19T00:29:00.000-04:002008-06-19T00:29:00.000-04:00If you think that Obama's "sexist" remarks and att...<I>If you think that Obama's "sexist" remarks and attitudes mean that you should vote for someone else or sit out the general election, I feel sorry for you.</I><BR/><BR/>Um. No. That's the least of my objections to Obama. They are many. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy_of_the_single_cause" REL="nofollow">Logical fallacy</A> alert.clshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943195151495184787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-77668601140303939912008-06-18T21:46:00.000-04:002008-06-18T21:46:00.000-04:00Discusssing the use of sexist/demeaning language i...Discusssing the use of sexist/demeaning language is not trivial.<BR/><BR/>Those who seek party unity may need to pay better attention, or they will play a part in getting McCain elected.<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, we're no closer to a resolution now than we were some posts ago. Party Unity Pony is starting to wheeze and cough.No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-14639167552503423172008-06-18T19:09:00.000-04:002008-06-18T19:09:00.000-04:00Carissa:You want to school me about being correct ...Carissa:<BR/><BR/>You want to school me about being correct in how I speak to women and then you insult my intelligence by saying that if I think that it's alright to call a woman "sweetie" or some other word than, "Ma'am" that I would logically think that calling a black man, "Boy" is okay, if I don't intend for it to be derogatory. Yep, that's gonna make me want to concede the point.<BR/><BR/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-3953026758201803052008-06-18T16:30:00.000-04:002008-06-18T16:30:00.000-04:00BTW, I certainly have no problem with my friends c...BTW, I certainly have no problem with my friends calling me sweetie, darling, or some other term of endearment. What I do not like is strange men doing it.clshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943195151495184787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-44968391845210845622008-06-18T16:25:00.000-04:002008-06-18T16:25:00.000-04:00democommie - Can you not get it through your head ...democommie - Can you not get it through your head that many women find being called "sweetie" demeaning and disrespectful? So why continue doing it?<BR/><BR/>So, following your logic, if someone doesn't "intend" any disrespect by calling a Black man "boy," that's okay, right? Of course it's not. We are trying to tell you to think before you speak, try to choose other terms.<BR/><BR/>As an exampleclshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943195151495184787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-88717787243201786482008-06-18T14:37:00.000-04:002008-06-18T14:37:00.000-04:00Re: the notion that no sexism was ever demonstrate...Re: the notion that no sexism was ever demonstrated by Obama or his campaign and that it was all in the media. I refer you to the "Brush Your Shoulders Off" gesture, the campaign taking no pains to get a retraction from Page Six for reporting that "99 Problems" was played at Obama's post-Iowa primary victory party, Obama surrogate Jesse jackson Jr. asserting that HRC "cried" in NH because of her Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-29408827310101914042008-06-18T13:29:00.000-04:002008-06-18T13:29:00.000-04:00Carissa:You're certainly entitled to your opinion,...Carissa:<BR/><BR/>You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but I'm entitled to mine as well, I think you're a humourless individual who is full of crap. <BR/><BR/>I've been called all sorts of things in my life, including "sweetie" by lots of women. Some of them knew me, many did not. For the record, I call men, "guy","mack","bub","pal","dude" and numerous other things. <BR/><BR/>You're Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-40645445619225933702008-06-18T11:55:00.000-04:002008-06-18T11:55:00.000-04:00democommie: I, for one, have called people and pet...democommie: <I>I, for one, have called people and pets, "Sweetie" for most of my life; </I><B>women, young children (both sexes) and dogs </B><I>(not cats, I don't call cats anything, generally). .I also often call women whose names I don't know "Dear". This is not done with any intent to denigrate anyone</I><BR/><BR/>But, do you call grown men "sweetie?" Doesn't look like it. So, you regulate clshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12943195151495184787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-39261380712610647962008-06-18T09:49:00.000-04:002008-06-18T09:49:00.000-04:00No blood for hubris:Well, we certainly differ in t...No blood for hubris:<BR/><BR/>Well, we certainly differ in that regard. <BR/><BR/>I would call Cheney, Rummy and Bush, murderous assholes and lying fuckwads--but "sweetie", not in this life.<BR/><BR/>democommieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-2694080384780782052008-06-18T07:04:00.000-04:002008-06-18T07:04:00.000-04:00I call people with whom I am on a sweetie-type rel...I call people with whom I am on a sweetie-type relationship "sweetie" all the time -- in fact, it is a term that honorably distinguishes them from all others.<BR/><BR/>But I don't do it to strangers.<BR/><BR/>And I don't like it when people who are not in a sweetie-type relationship with me call me "sweetie," or "dear" or "honey" including hospital technicians taking an x-ray or something. But No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-20671178731734812892008-06-18T06:52:00.000-04:002008-06-18T06:52:00.000-04:00This is probably going to go unread, but...I, for ...This is probably going to go unread, but...<BR/><BR/>I, for one, have called people and pets, "Sweetie" for most of my life; women, young children (both sexes) and dogs (not cats, I don't call cats anything, generally). .I also often call women whose names I don't know "Dear". This is not done with any intent to denigrate anyone. When I want to do THAT, endearments are not my weapon. I have Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-65133956855815356732008-06-16T21:36:00.000-04:002008-06-16T21:36:00.000-04:00By the way, honey, I think you missed the part whe...By the way, honey, I think you missed the part where Obama himself admitted to having a "bad habit" of calling people "sweetie."<BR/><BR/>But I'm sure his bad habit is quite unlike your gracious use of endearments, sugar.<BR/><BR/>Oh, and I think you may have missed my references to McCain's cunt-calling? As in "Bludgeon Me Not With Roe v. Wade"?<BR/><BR/>So really, don't get your panties in a No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-25550956158519993352008-06-16T21:32:00.000-04:002008-06-16T21:32:00.000-04:00Of course you're right, sweetie.It's a sign of gra...Of course you're right, sweetie.<BR/><BR/>It's a sign of graciousness and hospitality.<BR/><BR/>Don't worry your pretty little head about it.No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-14231547723509930992008-06-16T19:57:00.000-04:002008-06-16T19:57:00.000-04:00I realize of course that I'm stepping into a world...I realize of course that I'm stepping into a world of hurt by posting here, but what the hell....<BR/><BR/>I had no idea that "sweetie" was such a derogatory word for women in this nation. I myself prefer "darlin" (Southern enunciation)and use it quite frequently with women customers or female employees in my restaurants or in everyday life around town. I took an informal poll of the female Wilsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09794404842914215217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-31283661137148279032008-06-15T18:16:00.000-04:002008-06-15T18:16:00.000-04:00As I said previously:Well, now you know from perso...As I said previously:<BR/><BR/>Well, now you know from personal experience that many people do not care to be addressed as "sweetie."<BR/><BR/><BR/> Including you.No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-48136496511648386742008-06-15T18:00:00.000-04:002008-06-15T18:00:00.000-04:00All right. That was a mistake and more condescendi...All right. That was a mistake and more condescending than Obama realized. I'll give you that. But why are you calling me sweetie? Are you trying to annoy me? If so, why? What good will that do?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-20887729639351248342008-06-15T16:26:00.000-04:002008-06-15T16:26:00.000-04:00Well, now you know from personal experience that m...Well, now you know from personal experience that many people do not care to be addressed as "sweetie."<BR/><BR/>And here's a link for the rest:<BR/><BR/>http://www.usnews.com/blogs/erbe/2008/4/4/obamas-sweetie-problem.htmlNo Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-33896390164071607442008-06-15T14:07:00.000-04:002008-06-15T14:07:00.000-04:00I've heard of it, but I haven't heard of Obama cal...I've heard of it, but I haven't heard of Obama calling anyone sweetie over and over again. This is an exaggeration. What are you trying to accomplish?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13927129.post-5013859258007730902008-06-15T05:54:00.000-04:002008-06-15T05:54:00.000-04:00I'm calling you sweetie because that is how Barack...I'm calling you sweetie because that is how Barack Obama addressed a female journalist in a notorious incident that fueled the Sweetie Rebellion, sweetie.<BR/><BR/>Have you not heard of that?No Blood for Hubrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02380206118683017717noreply@blogger.com